Kiss frontman gives file-sharers tongue-lashing

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Kiss frontman gives file-sharers tongue-lashing

Postby Logic » Wed Oct 06, 2010 2:47 pm

I know its not really news that's to do with computer, hacking and so forth. But the cr*p that he spouts just makes me wonder, whether in his earlier years, he'd taken an illegal substance and that had screwed with his brain?

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/10/06 ... _them_all/

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Re: Kiss frontman gives file-sharers tongue-lashing

Postby horze » Thu Oct 07, 2010 4:52 am

i did not listen to the interview, only read the article. Of course he does not like that he might loose some money (poor guy) but on the other hand he does not realize that Internet is also the biggest free advertising community you have ever seen.

Every time people search on his name or Kiss or the music a lot of results will be showed, not only one. People are using for example YouTube, stumbles upon some great music made by Kiss and suddenly there is a new person that likes the music and this person might even decide to buy a CD in the future. The person could also choose to not buy but still have the music on the computer and share it with other friends that begins to like it etc...

I must say that he thinks in a very old fashion way. He is whiny about that there is no music industry left. He forgets all talents that nowadays can spread their work in a free way on Internet, without being bound to a music company that keeps the main part of the money and sometimes restricts the artistic work.

He is a businessman and not longer an artist. He does not care about artistic freedom, only about money. I do not have anything against paying the artist for the work, but I have very much against paying a bloodsucking industry like the music industry a lot of money.
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Re: Kiss frontman gives file-sharers tongue-lashing

Postby Logic » Thu Oct 07, 2010 8:36 am

Personally I've never listened to music by Kiss, but as you say Horze, in his earlier years he may have been a brilliant musician, but now he is nothing more than a blood sucking leech, that tries to zap money from out of everything. I'm surprised he hasn't tried to have the bands name copyrighted, where every time someone says the work kiss, they then would have to pay royalties to them - he's just another pompous ass!
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Re: Kiss frontman gives file-sharers tongue-lashing

Postby psilocybin » Thu Oct 07, 2010 12:34 pm

Kiss was always a gimmick, their music was always mediocre and full of artistic compromise, and Gene Simmons has always been about making money. None of this surprises me.
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Re: Kiss frontman gives file-sharers tongue-lashing

Postby Thor » Sat Oct 09, 2010 2:53 am

Gene Simmons says this, "Make sure your brand is protected. Make sure there are no incursions. Be litigious. Sue everybody. Take their homes, their cars. Don't let anybody cross that line,".

Sure, protect your brand, draw a line. But don't ever get the line blurred. Generally speaking, People downloading copyrighted material for free obviousl'y aren't the wealthiest of people. Not always poor, but probably not six-figure salary types who pay there way through the web either. I don't think it's logical to have your livelihood taken away for songs and movies.

Taking peoples lives away for thousands of dollars, or taking away their homes and cars, which would destroy a family isn't fair either. Some big artist are blind to the everyday struggle some people go through with their families and putting food in their mouths and roofs over out heads. If you catch me stealing one mp3 from you, fine, charge me the 0.99 cents that it's worth. Meanwhile, the artist is still wealthy because of the now multiple avenues for revenue now available to artist.

That said, if you like something, buy it. I do both, but I can honestly say that downloading somethings first has saved me alot of money. There are many times that I have downloaded something only to think it was crap, and deleted it, all the while saving me money.
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Re: Kiss frontman gives file-sharers tongue-lashing

Postby Logic » Sat Oct 09, 2010 11:12 pm

Its true what you say Thor, and the general ideaology of - if you like, go out and buy it. Many cracks and keygens tend to note this by the groups themselves, and music release groups. But what some people are finding out is that some of the music, software and other products tend to be overally priced and a complete rip, especially for the working class, who like you say are not on a six figure salary and can't flutter away a few hundred dollars/euros/pounds on software or music they think is going to be great when its complete and utter rubbish.

The people who release the albums, programs and other such material are giving the people the oppertunity to do that old thing, which is called 'try before you buy'. I have to totally agree with that general idea! Why waste money on a piece of software or a cd thats not going to be listened to, or is not the right software for your needs.

Pointless really, and thats why the people would rather download illegally first, before going out to buy such an item. But to be quite frank, the amount of money they make, is ridiculous and even if the poorer classes was not to pay for such an item, the person isn't going to loose out on that much money.

Though he does remind me of Charles Dickins character, Scrooge from A Christmas Carol!
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